Gravitation
12-05 03:40 PM
I'm getting MBA from Babson College in MA (top25). The total cost is $60K in just tuition. My employer pays appx. half of it.
It's a huge investment of not just money but time as well. You have no life for three years.
It's very rewarding to learn so many different subjects: Economy, Marketing, Accounting, Law, Leadership, Finance, Technology management, Organizational Behavior. I reach classes tired but come out fresh. It really broadens one's thinking.
I got my B. Tech. from India. It's great to have American Classroom experience.
Great Networking.
I still have 30 years of professional life ahead of me to use knowledge/expertise gained from MBA. I wouldn't trade this experience for anything.
Due to demographic shift in US, large shortage of middle-management is expected in coming decades. MBA can provide a real leg-up in career advancement.
At the same time... I can totally see when some people just go through the motions to get their MBA and do nothing with it. Don't approach it like just a degree. If you are committed to learning new skills, using them and improving yourself just a little everyday... Go for MBA.
Also, don't expect big bucks immediately following MBA. Class knowledge , combined with some experience afterwards will actually provide super returns. Most of the studies that look at salary increment right after MBA will come up with -v e RoI.
In a nutshell, there are many factors to consider in a decision about getting an MBA degree; tuition expense is not the biggest one. If you have any desire to get MBA, don't let others dissuade you.
It's a huge investment of not just money but time as well. You have no life for three years.
It's very rewarding to learn so many different subjects: Economy, Marketing, Accounting, Law, Leadership, Finance, Technology management, Organizational Behavior. I reach classes tired but come out fresh. It really broadens one's thinking.
I got my B. Tech. from India. It's great to have American Classroom experience.
Great Networking.
I still have 30 years of professional life ahead of me to use knowledge/expertise gained from MBA. I wouldn't trade this experience for anything.
Due to demographic shift in US, large shortage of middle-management is expected in coming decades. MBA can provide a real leg-up in career advancement.
At the same time... I can totally see when some people just go through the motions to get their MBA and do nothing with it. Don't approach it like just a degree. If you are committed to learning new skills, using them and improving yourself just a little everyday... Go for MBA.
Also, don't expect big bucks immediately following MBA. Class knowledge , combined with some experience afterwards will actually provide super returns. Most of the studies that look at salary increment right after MBA will come up with -v e RoI.
In a nutshell, there are many factors to consider in a decision about getting an MBA degree; tuition expense is not the biggest one. If you have any desire to get MBA, don't let others dissuade you.
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supers789
07-18 08:00 PM
Since most of the crowd will file 485 now and will get EAD, I was wondering, if IV will still be putting efforts to make the PD current, or to get the option of filing 485 even if PD is not current?
This will help those -
1. who are stuck in BEC and could not file 485
2. who changed jobs after seeing no movement in PD for months, and labor is not yet filed or approved by new employer.
I am one of them.. and was wondering if there are chances of getting EAD for us. Or we will be employer dependent always.. until .. forever...
Thanks!
This will help those -
1. who are stuck in BEC and could not file 485
2. who changed jobs after seeing no movement in PD for months, and labor is not yet filed or approved by new employer.
I am one of them.. and was wondering if there are chances of getting EAD for us. Or we will be employer dependent always.. until .. forever...
Thanks!
sheela
08-13 04:53 PM
Signature has all relevant information.
Congrats: I feel better after seeing your posting. Mine too was received by R William at 7.55 on 7/2. May be it is on way too
Congrats: I feel better after seeing your posting. Mine too was received by R William at 7.55 on 7/2. May be it is on way too
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walking_dude
07-06 12:54 AM
IV will become ready for elections when we have real candidates with real faces. I request all real candidates to publish their photos and accomplishments, their ideas for the organization; so that we can choose the best person for the job.
Any volunteers? Why don't I see a single volunteer! Seriously, can we have an election without candidates?!
I feel that initiator of this thread is not trying a coup d'�tat. He is merely pointing to the fact that every organization runs by elected officials. Having a life term president and core group is only heard in autocratic systems but not in a democratic one. What are we as an organization?
Why are we afraid of discussing new ideas? Why shouldn't we open up IV organization for elections? There is nothing wrong in declaring the rules and then playing by those rules.
So I completely support the guy who came up with this suggestion.
Any volunteers? Why don't I see a single volunteer! Seriously, can we have an election without candidates?!
I feel that initiator of this thread is not trying a coup d'�tat. He is merely pointing to the fact that every organization runs by elected officials. Having a life term president and core group is only heard in autocratic systems but not in a democratic one. What are we as an organization?
Why are we afraid of discussing new ideas? Why shouldn't we open up IV organization for elections? There is nothing wrong in declaring the rules and then playing by those rules.
So I completely support the guy who came up with this suggestion.
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saibabu_d
07-18 01:28 AM
You said: "all applications are pre-adjudicated".
What do they complete in pre-adjudication process?
Thanks
What do they complete in pre-adjudication process?
Thanks
nirenjoshi
03-09 10:12 PM
Of all the wrongs in April VB +ve thing is EB3-I moved. It moved to the extent it moved last year (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/Past_Visa_Bulletin_Data).
So for EB3-Is take console on these
1) Horror or 245(i) (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/245(I)) are over.
2) EB3-I may be over 2001 by start of next year.
So EB3-I may move only by 2 months for the rest of the year?
So for EB3-Is take console on these
1) Horror or 245(i) (http://immigrationvoice.org/wiki/index.php/245(I)) are over.
2) EB3-I may be over 2001 by start of next year.
So EB3-I may move only by 2 months for the rest of the year?
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WAIT_FOR_EVER_GC
09-04 08:14 PM
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i think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to usa in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the eb2 route and are happy and some in eb3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- they applied for gc as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to greencard as soon as they started a job in usa are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career i have seen people saying that gc is not important to them etc but when their h1b is about to expire they panic and get desperate for green card.
** even if a person starts the gc process in the initial days, he/she may find another better job than what they are doing now. You can't just stay with a desi blood sucker if your gc process has been started by that company.
Someone who has applied in june 2002 under eb3 never thought that he/she will be stuck for so long. This is because of the amnesty given by the bush administration in 2001.
This is pure luck.**
- before pre-perm era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like ca, ny etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
** in pre-perm era some companies started opening dummy companies in states like delaware, maine, iowa, nebraska .. Etc, and applied labor from those states. Few people were lucky that they could get through this route.
One of my friend got stuck using this route, he had to change the company as uscis had
started questioning the companies.
If you are talking about getting hired by a company who is based out of such states is very difficult because these states do not have much jobs in the information technology sector.
- any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for gc as soon as the employee joined it. And i have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
** every desi blood sucking company till now tries to take as much advantage as possible and will file the gc when there is no other go.
- people who took advantage of the labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of eb2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth eb2 job requirements, so that they can file in eb2. Such folks with 2007 pd are happy today and people with 2003 pds in eb3 will have to wait for a long time.
- if you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
** what type of action are you talking about. Who has the money to hire another lawyer to fight against these people. The only action one could have taken is to leave the company. But as a matter of fact all the desi companies are the same.
If you are talking about getting hired by big companies then tell me seriously how many companies are willing to go through the paper work and file h1-b. During the 2001 recession tell me how many big companies were hiring.
A drawback of the big companies is that if your are fired you loose your gc process, if you are working for a consulting company you have option of consulting and your greencard process is still intact.
- many folks have said that they thought they were in eb2. But found they are in eb3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. Iv forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file i485 in july 2007 due to iv effort. Imagine a 2004 eb3 india person without ead today? How will he survive a job loss on h1b in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
being vocal is another story
-
i think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to usa in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the eb2 route and are happy and some in eb3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- they applied for gc as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to greencard as soon as they started a job in usa are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career i have seen people saying that gc is not important to them etc but when their h1b is about to expire they panic and get desperate for green card.
** even if a person starts the gc process in the initial days, he/she may find another better job than what they are doing now. You can't just stay with a desi blood sucker if your gc process has been started by that company.
Someone who has applied in june 2002 under eb3 never thought that he/she will be stuck for so long. This is because of the amnesty given by the bush administration in 2001.
This is pure luck.**
- before pre-perm era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like ca, ny etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
** in pre-perm era some companies started opening dummy companies in states like delaware, maine, iowa, nebraska .. Etc, and applied labor from those states. Few people were lucky that they could get through this route.
One of my friend got stuck using this route, he had to change the company as uscis had
started questioning the companies.
If you are talking about getting hired by a company who is based out of such states is very difficult because these states do not have much jobs in the information technology sector.
- any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for gc as soon as the employee joined it. And i have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
** every desi blood sucking company till now tries to take as much advantage as possible and will file the gc when there is no other go.
- people who took advantage of the labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of eb2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth eb2 job requirements, so that they can file in eb2. Such folks with 2007 pd are happy today and people with 2003 pds in eb3 will have to wait for a long time.
- if you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
** what type of action are you talking about. Who has the money to hire another lawyer to fight against these people. The only action one could have taken is to leave the company. But as a matter of fact all the desi companies are the same.
If you are talking about getting hired by big companies then tell me seriously how many companies are willing to go through the paper work and file h1-b. During the 2001 recession tell me how many big companies were hiring.
A drawback of the big companies is that if your are fired you loose your gc process, if you are working for a consulting company you have option of consulting and your greencard process is still intact.
- many folks have said that they thought they were in eb2. But found they are in eb3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. Iv forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file i485 in july 2007 due to iv effort. Imagine a 2004 eb3 india person without ead today? How will he survive a job loss on h1b in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
being vocal is another story
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loudobbs
09-09 11:39 PM
and i am NOT the real Lou Dobbs. But in all seriousness guys, I think we really have to wake up. We are not illegal immigrants....
And we are not asking for Amnesty...
There is no deying the fact that this country has benefited from us much than us. How about some moral abligation and sense of fairness from this great country???
And we are not asking for Amnesty...
There is no deying the fact that this country has benefited from us much than us. How about some moral abligation and sense of fairness from this great country???
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diptam
07-06 12:40 PM
I dont want another flurry of emails by explaining no-nonsense "conspiracy theory" behind all this (Hint - The day CIR failed , AILF came up with this 95%-98% truth in their websites and the day 2nd CIR resurrection attempt was being discussed is June 13th which is the July Bulletin release Date)
Our only option is to expose USCIS wrongdoings ( I mean all Kind of Wrongdoings ) via Media and at the end of the day show your GUTS to support AILA lawsuit by providing our real names etc... ( incase they need)
Nothing else is going to help.
We didn't do anything wrong , so lets fight for Justice.
They are not coming clean on this...first they said they used up 60K visas, now they are saying they worked over wkend to use 25K VISAS... Its a big scandal....Just to prevent us from filing...
Our only option is to expose USCIS wrongdoings ( I mean all Kind of Wrongdoings ) via Media and at the end of the day show your GUTS to support AILA lawsuit by providing our real names etc... ( incase they need)
Nothing else is going to help.
We didn't do anything wrong , so lets fight for Justice.
They are not coming clean on this...first they said they used up 60K visas, now they are saying they worked over wkend to use 25K VISAS... Its a big scandal....Just to prevent us from filing...
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HumJumboHathuJumbo
09-10 12:58 PM
I, for one, am happy with this Oct visa bulletin. This is how it should be. First give GCs to all those with < 2003 PD. You guys with 2006 and 2007 pd should be glad you even got to file I-485 and EAD. What are you bitching about?.
I dont care about the red dots. I stand corrected. you guys are being selfish.
I dont care about the red dots. I stand corrected. you guys are being selfish.
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rockstart
03-09 11:41 AM
Between July & August do you think it will cross 1.5 years taking all of 2006 & half of 2007 applications? Considering VdlRao's data which is 70K applications pending for 2006 I am not sure it will work thought I am still hopeful that 2005 will pass quickly since there are few PERM applications.
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kshitijnt
06-26 02:08 PM
I totally agree with you, but think about this.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
I have already said that those being replaced will come in at a lower salary and contributing less taxes. Because if you are in late 20s, early 30s then you are about to settle down. I dont know how many people at this level want to come to America. Even in India people at this age will not want to come to US if they have children who are about to go to school. So these guys will most probably be replaced with younger workers.
Again, how long this game of fooling people will go on?
People from other countries are there and willing but they dont have the same NUMBERS that India and China have. Like can 5000 people of SAME quality and salary come here from say western europe? If they can, why are they not trying it already? I work with lot of europeans in my team. I think they want to visit here but dont want to live here.
For every couple who plan to leave, there are 5 couples anxious to replace them. Do you know the % of visas approved vs visa applicants?.The 5 couples could be from anywhere, not just from india where the economy is in good shape.
My point is that America does lose when someone goes back.But the loss is on a very very micro level----and replacement is not that difficult.
I have already said that those being replaced will come in at a lower salary and contributing less taxes. Because if you are in late 20s, early 30s then you are about to settle down. I dont know how many people at this level want to come to America. Even in India people at this age will not want to come to US if they have children who are about to go to school. So these guys will most probably be replaced with younger workers.
Again, how long this game of fooling people will go on?
People from other countries are there and willing but they dont have the same NUMBERS that India and China have. Like can 5000 people of SAME quality and salary come here from say western europe? If they can, why are they not trying it already? I work with lot of europeans in my team. I think they want to visit here but dont want to live here.
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pbojja
09-11 09:40 PM
Sent the book...See changes in the original msg.
http://www.amazon.com/Brighter-Child-Math-Preschool-Workbooks/dp/076967609X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221181573&sr=1-2
*****************************
TO
The Honorable Emilio T. Gonzalez (Director)
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20529
***************
My Message:
Hon. Mr. Gonzalez,
I would like to register my protest with you for not following an orderly method when approving I-485 applications. In the last two months, while the priority dates were current for several applicants from India in the EB2 category, most applications with later priority dates and later receipt dates were approved by USICS, causing deep concern and grief among those waiting patiently in the line before them.
This significantly reduces our confidence in the system. Thus, I am sending you this letter with a book as a symbol of protest and with the hope that USCIS will deal fairly with all the applicants as per the rules and regulations.
Thanks
My Name
****************
Note: On Amazon you must select gift option to add the message. No need to wrap it.
Absolutely , Do you have the address and responsible person for DOL,NSC,TSC? I just want to modify the letter and want to seek each ones responsibilty.
Lets get together folks and try to get some answers from DOL and USCIS , dont sit back and relax ..Its for every one ...lets get some thing kicked off
Stop Worrying ...Stop Talking ...Start Doing ...
Some may be worried to reveal identity ordering online ..lets buy 14 math books from local book store(or dollar store) and send 5 books to USCIS , 5 to DOL , 2 to TSC , 2 to NSC with name " GC aspirant from India or China" ...what do you guys think ? shall we kick this off this week end with differnt message to each one of them involved ?
http://www.amazon.com/Brighter-Child-Math-Preschool-Workbooks/dp/076967609X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221181573&sr=1-2
*****************************
TO
The Honorable Emilio T. Gonzalez (Director)
U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20529
***************
My Message:
Hon. Mr. Gonzalez,
I would like to register my protest with you for not following an orderly method when approving I-485 applications. In the last two months, while the priority dates were current for several applicants from India in the EB2 category, most applications with later priority dates and later receipt dates were approved by USICS, causing deep concern and grief among those waiting patiently in the line before them.
This significantly reduces our confidence in the system. Thus, I am sending you this letter with a book as a symbol of protest and with the hope that USCIS will deal fairly with all the applicants as per the rules and regulations.
Thanks
My Name
****************
Note: On Amazon you must select gift option to add the message. No need to wrap it.
Absolutely , Do you have the address and responsible person for DOL,NSC,TSC? I just want to modify the letter and want to seek each ones responsibilty.
Lets get together folks and try to get some answers from DOL and USCIS , dont sit back and relax ..Its for every one ...lets get some thing kicked off
Stop Worrying ...Stop Talking ...Start Doing ...
Some may be worried to reveal identity ordering online ..lets buy 14 math books from local book store(or dollar store) and send 5 books to USCIS , 5 to DOL , 2 to TSC , 2 to NSC with name " GC aspirant from India or China" ...what do you guys think ? shall we kick this off this week end with differnt message to each one of them involved ?
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bskrishna
07-11 02:32 PM
bang on the money... i think this is just another ingenious way for USCIS to milk us :mad:
I do not think CIS has that much smartness in them. Different sections seem to go about the motions on their own schedule. They seem to be an uncoordinated bunch so far.
I do not think CIS has that much smartness in them. Different sections seem to go about the motions on their own schedule. They seem to be an uncoordinated bunch so far.
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Raju
07-06 02:37 PM
More important is the last 48 hrs where they processed 25000 cases
AT-WILL.
Ohh this guy has a good first name - 485 granted.
Ohh this guy married twice,needs money - 485 granted.
Ooh this girl doesnt look good - 485 denied.
Ooh this girl has excellent looks - 485 granted.
Ooh This couple stayed EUROPE not so loyal - 485 denied.
and so on and so forth....
I doubt if anyone was denied. They have to approve anyone and everyone to meet the numbers.
AT-WILL.
Ohh this guy has a good first name - 485 granted.
Ohh this guy married twice,needs money - 485 granted.
Ooh this girl doesnt look good - 485 denied.
Ooh this girl has excellent looks - 485 granted.
Ooh This couple stayed EUROPE not so loyal - 485 denied.
and so on and so forth....
I doubt if anyone was denied. They have to approve anyone and everyone to meet the numbers.
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9years
12-02 09:02 AM
How much time does one really need to prepare to file for labor these days ,please let me know. The time before filing the labor, if everything goes very fast.
Robert Kumar,
Even though one wants to push too fast, I think there are certain duration one has to wait in each step before goes to the next step (this is just based on my knowledge and I may be wrong). It takes around 6 months minimum I think. Good luck for your process.
Robert Kumar,
Even though one wants to push too fast, I think there are certain duration one has to wait in each step before goes to the next step (this is just based on my knowledge and I may be wrong). It takes around 6 months minimum I think. Good luck for your process.
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03-09 08:33 AM
Please post any important updates here...seems today's session is already started...
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9years
11-30 02:05 PM
Just noticed there is an update on LUD on my previous EAD (not the current one). Not sure what that means though. Still waiting for response after sending interfiling letter.
Thank you for the update. I don't have any updates or LUDs. Best of luck to you.
Thank you for the update. I don't have any updates or LUDs. Best of luck to you.
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09-11 11:46 AM
through Google Checkout.
amitjoey
06-05 04:25 PM
Instead of giving like that why don't IV open a "IV Store" and sell T-shirts for 100 or 200$ ?
we can use
http://www.cafepress.com/ or other sites which provide this service.
Great Idea conchshell !!
That idea has already been implemented, please feel free to buy the apparel
at
http://www.cafepress.com/immivoice.
A lot of us bought shirts, sweat shirts for the rally in washington and Sanjose last year.
we can use
http://www.cafepress.com/ or other sites which provide this service.
Great Idea conchshell !!
That idea has already been implemented, please feel free to buy the apparel
at
http://www.cafepress.com/immivoice.
A lot of us bought shirts, sweat shirts for the rally in washington and Sanjose last year.
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